調教如何爽玩又安全 No. 1【法律篇】

◎ 作者:居懷昭
原文位置:調教如何爽玩又安全 No. 1【法律篇】–居懷昭(網誌)

2013/5/4凌晨2:00,剛剛經歷了一個刑案現場。

一個很乖、很惹人愛的底敵,穿了憲兵制服迎接一個自稱是「主人」的人到家裡玩。可愛底敵被操過體訓、綁成木乃伊之後,主在未經本人同意的情況下,使用底敵的臉書在塗鴉牆上留言,現場文字SNG報導他被玩的過程,底敵所有朋友都看的見。並且,事先講好只玩體訓跟木乃伊,但那個「主人」見到現場底敵家有肛塞,就臨時起意要玩肛,底敵反抗說不行,他才不玩。

當我看到底敵的帳號有不尋常、看起來不像是本人的發文後,就跟「那個人」用底敵的帳號傳訊息。他本來很驕傲地說,「牠(底敵)正被我玩弄著」,穿著甲服,「等她遊戲結束 再由她跟你說」。我問「那個人」,你有經過底敵的同意使用他的臉書嗎?他看過,沒回我。我問他,底敵今天的膠圈打的好嗎?他也看了,沒回我。(因為我知道底敵之前只有軍便服,沒有甲服。看來那個「主」連憲兵制服的樣式都搞不清楚。)最後我善意提醒他:如果未經物品主人同意就使用他的帳號po文,可能會觸犯妨害秘密罪,請小心。

後來隔了6分鐘,底敵就自己回我訊息,說那個「主人」說要看展覽沒時間了,就走了。


【憲兵主人小辭典】

以上這個故事,可能牽涉到「隱私權」、刑法「入侵電腦或其相關設備罪」跟電信法的「侵犯秘密」。

司法院大法官於釋字第585號解釋,隱私權受憲法第22條保障,「基於人性尊嚴與個人主體性之維護及人格發展之完整,隱私權乃為不可或缺之基本權利。」

隱私權的保護範圍,依釋字第603號解釋,可分為「空間隱私」與「私密隱私」兩部分。所謂空間隱私,指「保障個人生活私密領域免於他人侵擾及個人資料之自主控制」,所謂私密隱私,指「保障人民決定是否揭露其個人資料、及在何種範圍內、於何時、以何種方式、向何人揭露之決定權,並保障人民對其個人資料之使用有知悉與控制權及資料記載錯誤之更正權。」

以上這個案例中的「主人」,在沒有經過底敵的同意下就使用他的臉書帳號,可能就侵犯了他「個人資料的自主控制權」,違反了「空間隱私」的保護。如果還進一步拍了底敵的木乃伊照片、裸露照po上網,則違反了「私密隱私」,也就是違反了底敵的圖片應該何時、用何種方式、向誰揭露的決定權。如果真的po上網,那也就可能構成網路罷凌了。

另外,刑法第358條(入侵電腦或其相關設備罪)也說,「無故輸入他人帳號密碼、破解使用電腦之保護措施或利用電腦系統之漏洞,而入侵他人之電腦或其相關設備者,處三年以下有期刑、拘役或科或併科十萬元以下罰金。」就好比網路釣魚程式,或是這個故事中的主人,「未經原始申請人同意,且無合法之理由而輸入帳號密碼」,即構成了無故輸入他人帳號密碼侵入他人之電腦的要件。

此外,電信法第六條規定:「電信事業及專用電信處理之通信,他人不得盜接、盜錄或以其他非法之方法侵犯其秘密。」犯了此法,「處五年以下有期徒刑,得併科新台幣一百五十萬元以下罰金。」就算是意圖要侵犯別人的祕密,即使沒有達成(未遂犯)也會被罰。在這故事中,底敵有權提起告訴,這個罪才會成立(告訴乃論)。

整體來看,這位底敵是因為家中電腦的密碼設「記憶」,因此那個「主人」可以輕易開啟電腦就使用他的臉書發文。如果底敵連網路購物商城的帳號密碼都設記憶,那麼「主人」便可能登入他的其他帳號,盜買財物寄回家裡,牽涉到的刑責就不只上述這些了。

憲兵軍犬主人要提醒所有同好,「要玩得爽、也要玩得安全,才能玩得長久」。學習一點法律常識,用來教導(或警告)那些可能侵犯你權益的人。同時,把自己的電腦、手機設備設密碼保護,都是玩得安全、長久又愉快的小撇步。

最後,我這篇文章,從頭到尾都把「主人」加引號,是因為我認為他的行為讓他表現地不像是真正負責任的主人。

這個「主人」違反了玩BDSM基本的「安全、神智清楚、知情同意」(safety, sanity, consensus) 三原則中的第一、第三原則,讓奴的身體與隱私受到侵犯,並且未在事前充分溝通,獲得彼此同意。這些在國外的BDSM圈都是被視為理所當然的原則,在台灣還沒有形成共識。至少在我接觸的美國社群,如果有人敢像故事中的主人這樣做,他的名字可能會在Recon等網站/app,或Kinky組織裡立刻黑掉,傳遍整個社群。這樣一來,他再要找奴就很難了。

當然,台灣不一定要照抄歐美的BDSM文化。那麼台灣的玩家們也可以討論,無論你是玩木乃伊、體訓軍操、角色扮演、綑綁調教、戀物(皮革、制服、緊身衣、運動服等)、打屁股、父子、痛虐,無論是哪一種路線,屬於我們台灣自己的BDSM共通規則是什麼?什麼是讓大家都能接受,並且能「玩的爽快、安全又長久」的基本原則呢?

上面這些知識除了奴、犬朋友需要學習之外,所有奇貨可居的主人們,在受到眾奴的青睞、仰望的同時,應該一起肩負起建立社群規矩的責任。

喔,別忘了,奴彼此口耳相傳的口碑(俗稱八卦),其實也是監督主的機制之一唷。呵呵~

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  1. So — been on this thing for about five months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, reckon I’d say something since someone asked me a few days back. Am based in the UK, mainly bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    What got me on it was honestly embarrassing — I never could get my head round what an each way payout actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I used to just guess and moan when the payout landed. These days I stick my stake in first, every time, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — type in stake and odds and you get the return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the bigger stuff — trebles returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, honestly that’s where I always got it wrong. If you want a look, it lives at football treble bet and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    What actually made a difference was the more serious extras. They’ve got an odds-to-probability calculator and it makes obvious the overround, plus a kelly staking calculator — I run quarter kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is handy too when I’m spreading across selections.

    Couple of gripes. The design looks pretty plain — not much flash, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. Phone-wise it’s fine although the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no proper app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but worth saying.

    Right, that’s me. Free, no ads shoved in your face, works. Anyone who honestly works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saves me plenty of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

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  4. OK — been on this thing for maybe five months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. Am based in the UK, mainly do football and horses, small stakes, so take it how you like.

    The reason I started using it was honestly a bit daft — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an e/w payout would be with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d guess and moan when the payout landed. Now I punch the numbers in before every slip, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator is the one I use most — type in your stake, the odds and you get returns instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. Same tool covers the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, honestly that’s where I always lose track. If you want a look, it’s here ew single calculator — free, no signup.

    The thing that really changed how I bet were the nerdier tools. There’s an implied probability converter which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly criterion calculator — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator gets used a fair bit if I’m covering two or three runners.

    Couple of gripes. The interface looks pretty plain — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it works but the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, works. If you still does the maths on paper, have a look — saves me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

  5. Right — have been messing about with this thing for maybe five months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d write something up since someone asked me last week. Am based in the UK, mainly stick to footie and the horses, nothing mad, for context.

    What got me on it was honestly pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever figure out what an each way payout actually was when the place terms changed. I’d just eyeball it and then be surprised. Now punch the numbers in first, every time, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I use most — you drop in stake and odds and you get returns instantly, fractions or decimals. Same tool covers the multiples — trebles maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, and that’s where I always lose track. Have a go yourself, it lives at union jack trixie bet calculator — free, no signup.

    The thing that genuinely changed how I bet is the more serious tools. There’s an odds-to-probability thing which shows you what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly calculator — I use half kelly as the full version is terrifying. Dutching calculator is decent for when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. The interface feels pretty plain — no frills, it’s clearly function over form. Phone-wise it works although the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but worth saying.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, no ads shoved in your face, works. If anyone still adds it up in their head, try it — saved me plenty of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  6. Right — been on this thing for maybe six months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d say something since a lad on another thread asked me the other day. I’m UK based, mainly bet football and racing, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.

    What got me on it was actually pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever figure out what an ew return actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just wing it and get a shock. These days I stick my stake in before every slip, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I use most — you put in your stake, the odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. There’s also the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles maths, lucky 15s, a yankee, honestly that’s where I always lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here margin calculator pinnacle and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that genuinely shifted things for me was the geekier tools. There’s an odds-to-probability converter that shows the overround, plus a kelly criterion tool — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit if I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. The layout is pretty plain — no frills, it’s clearly function over form. Phone-wise it’s fine although the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no proper app, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, does the job. Anyone who honestly adds it up in their head, try it — saves me a fair few arguments with the bookie.

  7. Right — have been messing about with this thing for about six months now and I keep coming back, reckon I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me a few days back. I’m in the UK, generally stick to footie and the horses, nothing mad, so take it how you like.

    How I found it was honestly a bit daft — I could never get my head round what an ew return would be with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just guess and then be surprised. Now stick my stake in before every slip, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I use most — you put in stake and odds and it shows profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. Same tool covers the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, a yankee, and that’s where I always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it lives at kelly criterion sports betting calculator — free, no signup.

    One thing that genuinely changed how I bet were the more serious bits. They’ve got an probability converter and it makes obvious the overround, and a kelly criterion calculator — I use half kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is handy too when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. The layout feels a bit basic — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. Phone-wise it works though the bigger tables are a squeeze. And nothing on the app store, just the site — doesn’t bother me but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, barely any ads, does what it says. If you still does the maths on paper, give it a go — saves me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

  8. Right — been using this thing for something like six months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since a mate asked me the other day. I’m in the UK, mostly do football and horses, nothing mad, for context.

    How I found it was actually pretty stupid — I couldn’t ever work out what an e/w return actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I’d just eyeball it and get a shock. Now I punch the numbers in first, every time, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator is the part I’m on daily — you drop in stake and odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. It also handles the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, yankees, honestly that’s where I’d always lose track. If you want a look, it lives at double accumulator — free, no signup.

    One thing that really changed how I bet is the more serious extras. They’ve got an implied probability converter that shows what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly staking tool — I use half kelly as the full version is terrifying. Dutching calculator is decent for when I’m covering two or three runners.

    Not all sunshine though. Its interface is a bit basic — no polish, it’s clearly function over form. Phone-wise it’s fine though the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no app, it’s browser only — doesn’t bother me just flagging it.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does the job. If anyone still adds it up in their head, try it — saves me a load of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  9. So — been using this thing for maybe six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d say something since a mate asked me last week. Am UK based, mainly bet football and racing, nothing mad, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    How I found it was actually embarrassing — I could never figure out what an ew payout actually was with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just guess and then be surprised. These days I type the odds in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator is the one I’m on daily — you drop in your stake, the odds and it shows profit and total return straight away, fractions or decimals. It also handles the fiddly ones — acca and treble returns, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where most people I know lose track. If you want a look, it’s over at what is a trixie bet? and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    One thing that genuinely shifted things for me is the more serious extras. There’s an implied probability thing and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly tool — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator gets used a fair bit for when I’m splitting a race.

    Couple of gripes. Its design feels a bit basic — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it’s usable but the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. And nothing on the app store, just the site — fine by me but worth saying.

    So yeah. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. If anyone still works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saves me a load of arguments with the bookie.

  10. OK — been on this thing for about six months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since a lad on another thread asked me the other day. I’m in the UK, generally do football and horses, a fiver here and there, for context.

    How I found it was genuinely a bit daft — I could never figure out what an ew payout would be once you get five places instead of three. I’d just eyeball it and then be surprised. Now I punch the numbers in before every slip, even a straight one-selection punt.

    The single bet calculator tool is the one I open most — type in your stake, the odds and it shows the return with no faffing, fractions or decimals. It also handles the multiples — trebles maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, and that’s where most people I know mess it up. Have a go yourself, it lives at kelly bet calculator — free, no signup.

    What genuinely shifted things for me was the more serious tools. The implied probability thing which shows you the overround, plus a kelly tool — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are terrifying. The dutching one is decent when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. Its design looks pretty plain — no frills, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it works although the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but you asked.

    Anyway. Free, no ads shoved in your face, works. Anyone who honestly works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — saves me a fair few “wait, that’s it?” moments.

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    The single bet calculator is the part I’m on daily — you drop in your stake, the odds and you get the return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. Same tool covers the fiddly ones — trebles maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, and that’s where I always mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it’s over at each way yankee calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that actually shifted things for me were the nerdier bits. There’s an implied probability thing and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly calculator — I run quarter kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutching one gets used a fair bit when I’m spreading across selections.

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    What got me on it was actually a bit daft — I couldn’t ever work out what an each way return actually was once you get five places instead of three. I used to just eyeball it and moan when the payout landed. Now punch the numbers in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I open most — you drop in the price and your stake and it shows the return with no faffing, fractions or decimals. It also handles the bigger stuff — acca and treble maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, which is where I’d always lose track. If you want a look, it’s over at treble accumulator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    One thing that actually changed how I bet is the geekier bits. They’ve got an probability calculator and it makes obvious what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly staking calculator — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. Dutching calculator gets used a fair bit when I’m spreading across selections.

    Couple of gripes. Its interface feels very functional, let’s say — zero flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it works though the lucky 63 breakdown are a squeeze. Also there’s no proper app, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but you asked.

    Anyway. Free, barely any ads, does what it says. Anyone who honestly does the maths on paper, have a look — it’s saved me plenty of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

  20. OK — have been messing about with this thing for something like four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so figured I’d say something since someone asked me last week. Am UK based, mainly do football and horses, small stakes, so take it how you like.

    What got me on it was honestly a bit daft — I could never get my head round what an ew payout actually was once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d eyeball it and moan when the payout landed. These days I type the odds in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I open most — type in stake and odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, either odds format. Same tool covers the multiples — doubles and trebles maths, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where I always got it wrong. If you want a look, it lives at bet calculator accumulator — free, no signup.

    One thing that actually made a difference is the nerdier tools. They’ve got an implied probability thing and it makes obvious the overround, plus a kelly staking tool — I use half kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is handy too if I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. Its design looks pretty plain — not much frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. On mobile it’s usable although the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. And nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — slight shame just flagging it.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, does the job. If anyone even now does the maths on paper, give it a go — saves me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

  21. Right — have been messing about with this thing for something like a few months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since a mate asked me a few days back. Am in the UK, generally stick to footie and the horses, a fiver here and there, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    How I found it was honestly embarrassing — I could never work out what an ew payout actually was with 1/5 odds a place. I used to just eyeball it and get a shock. Now I type the odds in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I’m on daily — type in your stake, the odds and it shows profit and total return instantly, fractions or decimals. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles maths, lucky 15 and lucky 63, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where most people I know lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at how to work out a lucky 63 and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that actually made a difference were the geekier tools. They’ve got an probability converter which shows you the overround, and there’s the kelly staking calculator — I stick to fractional kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutching one gets used a fair bit for when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. Its layout is a bit basic — no frills, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it works though the lucky 63 breakdown make you pinch and zoom. And nothing on the app store, just the site — slight shame but worth saying.

    So yeah. Free, barely any ads, does what it says. If anyone honestly works out returns on a calculator app, try it — it’s saved me plenty of arguments with the bookie.

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  23. So — been using this thing for something like five months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so thought I’d write something up since someone asked me a few days back. Am in the UK, mostly do football and horses, a fiver here and there, so take it how you like.

    What got me on it was actually pretty stupid — I could never get my head round what an each way return would be with 1/5 odds a place. I’d just guess and moan when the payout landed. Now stick my stake in before every slip, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator is the part I open most — you drop in your stake, the odds and it shows the return straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. Same tool covers the fiddly ones — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, which is where I’d always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it’s here lucky 15 calculator — free, no signup.

    One thing that genuinely made a difference is the nerdier extras. They’ve got an odds-to-probability thing that shows how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly criterion tool — I use half kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. The interface feels pretty plain — not much flash, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On my phone it’s fine though the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no app, just the site — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.

    So yeah. Free, barely any ads, works. If anyone even now does the maths on paper, have a look — saves me plenty of “wait, that’s it?” moments.

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